$value) { if (strpos($param, 'color_') === 0) { google_append_color($google_ad_url, $param); } else if (strpos($param, 'url') === 0) { $google_scheme = ($GLOBALS['google']['https'] == 'on') ? 'https://' : 'http://'; google_append_url($google_ad_url, $param, $google_scheme . $GLOBALS['google'][$param]); } else { google_append_globals($google_ad_url, $param); } } return $google_ad_url; } $google_ad_handle = @fopen(google_get_ad_url(), 'r'); if ($google_ad_handle) { while (!feof($google_ad_handle)) { echo fread($google_ad_handle, 8192); } fclose($google_ad_handle); } ?>
PackInsider

Wake Upends #18 NC State: What Happened?

Screen Shot 2013-01-23 at 7.55.29 AM

Like we said in our pregame, if NC State doesn’t defend, then all bets are off.

Well, guess what? …NC State didn’t defend and they ended up losing by 2 to an undermanned, young Wake team that had no business walking away with that victory 86-84. The Wolfpack allowed the Deacs, who usually shoot around 40% to hit 50% of their FGs and score 86 points. Here are some takeaways from the game:

- Call it ‘tired legs,’ say that the Pack was cautious with foul trouble…those are just excuses. NC State isn’t defending. That’s nothing more than a ‘heart’ issue. It’simply a lack of ‘want to.’ I’m hearing people blame the refs, and say State gets unlucky when opposing players pick to have their career days against the Pack. That’s denial speaking. We pride ourselves on being the a positive voice for Wolfpack basketball here at PackInsider.com, but sometimes you just need to be blunt about what you’re seeing and I’m seeing a lack of heart, a lack of will and a great lack of focus on the defensive end.

- So where are the breakdowns happening? For one, you’re seeing way too much penetration from opposing guards and I’m not sure what to say about it. Brown and Wood simply aren’t playing defense. When their man drives, they only need to throw one fake at them and they’re lost. It may seem very fundamental to say this, but just watch the State guards on defense. They’re nearly upright almost all the time. You can’t defend a quick guard unless you’re as low or lower than he is, and that is not happening.

- You’re also seeing a lack of post defense from NC State. Playing the Pack should be every PF’s dream lately. Just drop in to the post, back it down a bit and then shoot over the 6’9 bigs, who outside of Howell are too afraid of foul trouble to get physical. Now, there might not be much State can do to stop that. They don’t have anyone over 6’9 in the post, and they’re not a very deep team, but it’s becoming too easy. The main reason is position defense. Again, working to keep an opposing post player from getting good position takes a lot of effort and a constant focus, something no one on NC State is giving right now on the defensive end. Something has got to be done…and fast. Last night Devin Thomas joined the ranks of traditionally low scoring forwards who drop 20+ on the Pack as he finished with 25.

- State shot 48% and wasn’t outrebounded. So really, there is no reason you should lose a game like that, but again it comes down to defense. On offense I think they were alright. In all of NC State’s losses they’ve had trouble getting to the line. In this one, they got there, they just missed. They only shot 56% from the stripe, which is awful considering they left 11 free points out there. They missed 3 of 4 in the final 26 seconds.

-After rewatching the game this morning, I’d have to say that State played well offensively. They missed their 3s and they couldn’t hit their FTs, but they had 5 guys in double figures, Leslie was nearly unstoppable late in the game and Purvis was a huge spark in their late game comeback as well. There really is no reason to talk about offense when it’s clear that NC State’s achilles heel is their defense. They have the bodies, they have the talent, but for some reason they are lacking the fire, the focus and the tenacity on the defensive end that great teams have. When will they start to understand this? Good question…

- The Pack played well early on and I thought they were in control of the pace the entire first half. They led by 16 and were up by 12 at the break. I think the only thing you can say about that first 20 minutes is that they were in foul trouble. Brown and Leslie especially. Leslie barely had any minutes in this one (18), and that can’t happen. I think Gottfried hit it on the head when he said his team needs to learn to play through these types of things. Leslie and Howell get real caught up in the ‘ref game’ and need to keep their concentration on the task at hand. I thought this game was called very evenly along the way, however it’s hard to understand how the ref swallowed his whistle when Leslie had his arm pulled down as clear as day on his final shot.

-In the second half it was just a lack of focus. A lack of passion. What it really is, is just a lack of a killer instinct. When they smell blood, instead of going in for the kill, State gets a bit squeamish. When their prey is laying down with nothing left to give, State toys with them, pokes at them, just begging them to get back up. Basically, NC State has been like those villains that we all hate from the Bond movies, this season. You have your target right where you want them, you’re whole agenda is to take out your target, but instead you waste time, go into a monologue about your plan, and before you know it, your target gets away.

- Gottfied better get his guys ready for Saturday because UNC is coming in hungry and the Pack better learn to start matching this hunger that other teams get when see that ranked number before their name. It’s only late January, but at the same time, it’s ALREADY late January and this team needs to look in the mirror before squaring off against their rivals on Saturday night.

Stay tuned as we’ll have a deep statistical breakdown coming soon….

  • packpride

    you said blaming the refs is an excuse, but then point out the fact that Leslie only played 18 minutes. You go on to say that cant happen, but the reason it did happen was because he was in foul trouble nearly the entire game. The refs controlled this game, not the players. It took away from the flow of the game. There was 58 fouls called in this game. That was enough to foul out 11 people, and have a 12th person with 3.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=11821760 Silas George

      It is hard to be consistent from game to game when the refs aren’t. Against Maryland, the refs didn’t call anything and then in this game, they call that many fouls. I was at the GA Tech game and the foul calls were either horribly called wrong on us or not called at all. I’m not saying that let them walk all over us in the second half because as my wrestling coach in HS always said, you should be good enough that it’s not up to the refs. We were winning by 12 at the half and somehow they got ahead by 10 in the second half? We let Duke come back from behind by 20 last year. This can’t keep happening on the road nor at home if we’re going to compete for the ACC title or in the NCAA tournament.

    • PackInsider

      I’m saying it’s an excuse b/c you have no control over it. If the refs stink, they stink. If they’re out to get you, then so be it. You can’t help that. you need to play through that. If that means playing harder, smarter…you have to find a way to win. Great teams do that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/bobfunck Bob Funck

    I completely agree with everything said here… we do not play D very well… we do not shoot FTs very well… We do not play with fire and intensity for 40 mins…. never blame a loss on the refs…. if our guys cant play D without fouling, they need to work on their fundamentals, footwork, getting down in a stance, playing over screens properly, switching properly, hedging on screens and getting back to your man after, correct help D w/o TOTALLY leaving ur man wide open at the 3 line… this has been a problem ALL year long… we were a much better defensive team at the end of last yr than we are now… hopefully we get there this year, but time is running out

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1398480324 Prof. Ronald Flippin

    how abt vandenberg? dude was a beast last night.. get him some burn

  • PrideinthePACK20

    I don’t think this could be said any better. We are playing like a middle of the pack team in the ACC. We were ranked 6th in the country and picked to win the ACC…ACT LIKE IT!!! I think that we are a top ten team in the country we just need to start playing like it.

  • sadapooda

    I agree with this article. Our defense is terrible. I feel like Scott Wood should come off the bench. He is not physical enough compared to what we have in Warren. Good shooters don’t have to play constantly and I wouldn’t even compare him to Reddick or other past shooters in the acc. He’s just not that consistent. VBurg has to get more minutes like last night or we will go no where in the dance. And the refs are going to be different every game, adjust!

  • BeardGang

    VBurg should not get more minutes. I think Wood does nothing for us but shoot 3′s, he can not create on his own, can not post up, and is not great on defense.

    Now we still are a good team that could be great. Our problem is when someone punches us in the mouth we crumble. No leadership, no heart, no fight

  • Disappointed

    I swallowed the kool-aid this year believing the football team was going to be special. Now I’m starting to fear that the basketball season is heading down the same ol’ path. I know we have extreme talent at several positions, but like someone mentioned the other day, I’m so tired of seeing people have career nights against us and sick of seeing fans rush the court when they beat us. We only get up for the big games. We could very easily be 1-5 in ACC play with the only win over # 1 Duke. How ridiculous is that?!? Unless something changes, I’m afraid one of these lackluster, close games against a much lesser team will end our tournament run early.

  • Sarl

    I also agree that Vandy should get more playing team to alleviate some of the toil and stress from Howell and Leslie. I thought Vandy was very good in the game. With Brown, Wood and Leslie on the bench, a team of Vandy, Lewis, Warren, Purvis and Howell extended the Pack’s biggest lead of the game. What happened in the second half was a nightmare. State’s biggest problems are four fold 1) inexcusiably poor foul shooting team 2) lack of effort on defense 3) too many unforced turnovers 4) team is void of a “true” leader on the floor. Gone are the days of a leader like Julius Hodge who would actually get in the face of teammates on the floor and get them re-focused. Brown, unlike E.F. Hutton–when he speaks–his teammates don’t listen.

  • sigh

    Losing 3 front court guys this season hurt us, especially last night. I miss Painter.

  • BeardGang

    When VBurg and Lewis (slim shady) go in it goes to hell in a hand basket quick

  • http://twitter.com/DaveSaysSo Dave Allen

    Terribly disappointing performance last night. The turnovers and lack of effort on D in the 2nd half were inexcusable. Then shaky foul shooting spoiled any chance we had of overcoming those issues. As disgraceful a loss as they come and very poor way to go into the big ESPN Game Day on Saturday. This team had better get it’s head on straight today.

  • hugh

    All comes down to defense and foul shots.

  • http://twitter.com/Wolfer96 Earl

    I said it at the beginning of the season, this is no top 10 team. That’s not a knock on this team, it’s just an honest assessment of what we have. A top 20 team yes on most nights but not top 10.

    I will say that the reffing was horrible. I think I may hate Valentine worst than KH. We have a short rotation and foul troubles will have a greater impact on this team than some other deeper teams. Not to take all ownership away from the players, but it is a fact that you cannot play the type of defense you want when you are carrying 3-4 fouls.

    Also, playing games so close together with only 6 players is challenging. Now, where I am pissed is that Gottfried was too short sighted. I have been saying all season that we need to rotate in more players to make any real run. Take our lumps early but build for March. After playing Vandy 4-8 minutes a game to start the season, Gott completely forgot about him for several games. Vandy is a work in progress, he needs minutes in every game to keep up his confidence. I could see that he was making progress early and then after not playing in 3 games completely regressed. Gott has to take the blame for that.

    I do not want to see another Cardiac Pack. Especially when we don’t need to.

    Road wins in the ACC will be hard to win. That’s a fact. There is a lot of parity in the league and really no dominant teams. At this point, I will be happy going .500 the rest of the way.

  • Disgruntled and Confused

    I just don’t understand the lack if killer instinct that plagues this team. If you have a young and bad Wake Forest team down 12 at the half on their court, embarrass them. Beat them by 30 again. It’s like they’re scared to beat a team by more than 10. Wake has no business beating us or even being close. They beat us by 20 in the 2nd half, think about that. WAKE FOREST! We aren’t a good road team. A majority of our bad games have come when we wear red (and black) jerseys. And my disgust with Teddy Valentine remains. I know it’s an excuse, but how long can the mockery that is ACC officiating continue? Something has to change. You can’t play a game like that. I began to assume whenever Wake missed a shot in the 2nd half, there would be a whistle. But we better get it together by Saturday. We can’t let an equally headscratching UNC team come in our house and beat us.

  • David

    One thing that I was concerned about when Gott got the job was his road win loss record in the SEC while at Alabama. I think I heard it was in the 20-86 range……that’s alarming.

    I do think that this is largely a product of Alabama, I think it will be difficult for anyone to win consistently there. I do believe that things can be different here in Raleigh for Gott.

    To win on the road (or anywhere for that matter) the team must have defensive intensity for 40 mins. Sadly we aren’t seeing that. I think we can expect some more of these head scratching losses if something doesn’t change on the defensive end.