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Cat Barber scored 21 points and Caleb Martin added 14, but it wasn’t enough as Virginia Tech took a 73-68 OT win away from the Pack .

State started off strong, playing patient inside-out basketball and getting out to a commanding 16 point first half lead. But as the game wore on and the Seth Allen and Jalen Hudson got hot, the Wolfpack reverted to this teams #1 weakness…poor shot selection. As the Pack settled for contested 3s and long 2s, the Hokies were attacking the basket and putting pressure on the Pack.

Caleb Martin and Mav Rowen combined to go 3-17 from beyond the arc in a game where NC State led for most of the game. State also outrebounded the Hokies 50-41, but could not overcome the onslaught of Allen and Hudson down the stretch.

As far as positives go, Cat played well. He really has come on as a go-to scorer and play maker for this team. He once again got over the 20 point mark even added 7 boards. The bigs rebounded the ball well and Anya was a block machine (5 total). Although Gottfried pointed out rebounding as a area that needed improvement after this game, I am not fully in agreement. Abu and Anya did great work on the boards and State actually won the rebounding battle 50-41. Yes, at the end of the game there were a few key missed rebounds that led to the loss, but overall I thought the bigs worked  hard on the glass. Lastly, Cody Martin filled his niche with 7 points (3-4 FG) and 4 boards in limited time. I think it’s time to see more Cody. He’s not ever going to be a big time scorer, but he really is the type of do-it all player who isn’t afraid to get his hands dirty. He shares the basketball, has a great nose for it and constantly finds himself in the right place at the right time. I know this team is dying for scorers, but they are also in need of a guy who practices patience and runs the offense with ease and efficiency.

Gottfried harped post game on a few calls he wished could have gone their way and the fact that his shooters couldn’t hit shots tonight, but when he goes back to watch the tape I think what might stand out is the decision making by his players when they got rattled. This is a young team, no one questions that, but they need to keep improving in this area. Tonight was an early step in the right direction, but then two steps in the wrong direction when the Hokies surged back in the 2nd half.

We’ve taking a bit of heat recently for being too critical of a team that came in 10-3. We’ve been doing this for a while now and we think that the fans of this site don’t just want to know if we won or if we lost (they watched the game), but they want to know why. How can this team let a 16 point lead slip away? Why did we look so good early on and what happened in the 2nd half?

Tonight you saw the points we have been trying to make all season long. This team is very talented and they have been out-athleting teams early this season, but now we’ve reached prime-time. Now every team is on the same level athletically, so intricacies of the game come into play. The small things start paying off, and being able to run faster and jump higher no longer gain you the advantage they did against teams like High Point or UNCG.

Tonight NC State came out and played Mark Gottfried basketball early on. They were patient, they were sharing the ball, dumping it down and causing VT to make decisions. Do they double down or allow Anya and Abu to go one on one on the block? Buzz Williams chose to have his guys double down. This opened up some great interior passing and a few high lows. It also opened up some great kick outs for uncontested 3s. They had the high pick and roll working and they were, allowing the ball to get into the high post. These are areas that the ball needs to go to make the defense react, and it was working to the Pack’s advantage in the first half.

In the second half it was a different story. As VT started making their run, the Pack started to panic. No longer where they working the ball inside-out. They retreated into the thing that has plagued them since day one. They started settling for forced shots. They stopped running through the offense and really let the Hokies off the hook. Too much dribbling, too much one and one at the top of the key. All of the sudden there were shot clock violations, guys taking 3s with 2 hands in their face, not even squared up. You’d have thought it was NC State team that was fighting back from a 16 point early deficit. At the end of the day, this is what really cost them.

Now, don’t lose hope. Does this mean that this team won’t figure out this issue and play like the team you saw in the first half? No way. This team is slowly improving. They are young, they are still finding their roles and learning what they can and can’t do at this level. The point we are trying to make is that we are now 14 games in. We are almost halfway through the season. This team has the talent to be a contender, they just need to focus on patience, execution and togetherness and they need to work on that until it becomes their default. When the going get’s tough this team needs to rely on each other. Cat is a great scorer, but they need more than just him if they want to make a run this season. They need to figure this out quick.#18 Louisville rolls into town in 5 days.

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JohnAllen3
JohnAllen3
7 years ago

I generally agree with you, but am pretty discouraged about the VT loss. Outside of Cat, our next best offensive options are two sophomores (Caleb & Abu) and a freshman (Mav). So, besides Cat, our offense is pretty young and will get better. Reviewing the VT game: Cat – Good game – too few assists, too many turnovers – but 21 pts and 7 boards is a good game Caleb – Pretty good game, but if he is going to play the 2, he should get some assists – 14 pts, 4 boards – good stuff BeeJay – Good game,… Read more »

wolfpack74
wolfpack74
7 years ago

Where is all this talent that you write about?  I don’t see it on the court as a team.  I see people confused, in the wrong position, shooting shots at the wrong time, and loosing games against inferior teams.  To me that spells below average talent.  Just because you can jump out of the gym, and are faster than lightning, stronger than the average bull, doesn’t mean you can play basketball.  This team has too many role players and not enough complete players playing as a team.

wormncsu
wormncsu
7 years ago

I hate to say this because I think he has done a lot for this program. But really with this product that we have on the floor I believe Gottfried should be worried. Let’s look he missed a whole draft class this year he was lucky to get Kirk and Rowan. Next year he only has one guy who is coming off a blown out knee. He missed the guy that everyone said was a lock to be at state. If cat leaves which I am sure he will you will be in same boat next year a team with… Read more »

wolfpack74
wolfpack74
7 years ago

PackJunky No $hit.  I told you guys last year that this team would suck.  Well you guys must see what I see now.  Anya, Freeman, and Abu should do nothing but practice free throw shooting.  The offense scheme also suck and does not fit these guys.  Please change something before we meet some good teams.

PackJunky
PackJunky
7 years ago

It’s offiicial… we suck.

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Wolferetti: Feed me my crow. NC State lost to Creighton and I’m here to break it down (and admit I was wrong)

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I was wrong.

I thought this matchup was a good one for NC State. I watched a lot of Creighton this year and to me, they looked like a team that NC State could roll over. Let me explain why.

I knew a few things. I knew Nembhard was a PG that could get a little out of control if sped up. I knew with a little defense and physicality, Sheierman could be made uncomfortable. I knew Kalkbrenner was a good defender but was going to sink on the pick-and-roll to protect the basket.

Joiner’s pull up just wouldn’t fall

I figured that Joiner, the pull-up king would be taking that DJ Burns screen, getting to the middle, and pulling up as Kalkbrenner sank. I figured Smith would exploit this as well. Well, turns out Joiner was off and couldn’t get his pull-up game going and Smith, well yeah Smith did exploit this pretty well.

Burns didn’t look like Burns

The other thing I’d figure would happen is that I thought DJ Burns would really frustrate Kalkbrenner. If you’ve looked at games where Kalkbrenner had to face a really good, physical back-to-the-basket big man, those bigs usually had pretty good games in the scoring column.  I honestly don’t understand what happened to Burns in this one. Sure he got a few stupid early fouls, but before he even picked up a foul he looked out of it. With no double teams coming, Burns is usually calculated, slowly backing you down and hitting you with a flurry of head fakes, pump fakes or spins. If the big doesn’t bite, Burns can fade away, go with a contested hook shot, or pass out.

In this game, Burns looked sped up for some reason. The first time he got the ball he quickly backed in and threw up a hook that rattled out. Not awful, but usually you see him probe a little more. Then the next time he didn’t even look for contact, instead, he threw up a little floater that didn’t fall. While neither were awful shots, both were uncharacteristic of Burns. On top of those things, he looked absolutely gassed within minutes of coming in. My guess is that it was the altitude, but either way, it took a toll on him.

Whatever it was, it had him frustrated and he had two really bad fouls where he just shoved Kalkbrenner (he also had a phantom foul that was ridiculous). That said, it just wasn’t his night and this made NC State a lot more one-dimensional.

Casey Morsell came to play, but this NC State roster just wasn’t built to get a guy like him going, which is a shame. Jarkel Joiner was a huge reason why NC State got to where they got. His scoring ability, his speed and his toughness and leadership skill were huge. But Joiner is a scoring guard, and great basketball teams need POINT guards.

What is a point guard, and why can’t we have one?

A point guard isn’t just a guy who dribbles it down. It’s a guy who understands the games within the games. Guys who dictate pace, call plays (sets) and are essentially coaches on the floor. NC State and Kevin Keatts never had that this season, and while you can get a long way with scoring guards and good big men, you’ll never compete for anything of worth until you prioritize the skill set of a true point guard. I think that has been NC State’s problem for years, and I find it kind of insane that coach after coach falls into this idea of having a scoring guard play as a PG for more offense to get on the court.

This is no shot at Jarkel, either. The guy was one of my favorite players to watch on this team, but it just is what it is. He is a scoring guard who happens to be slotting in at PG. When you see Keatts bring in a guy whose priority is getting his guys open and dictating pace, then you can start to believe that this program may be close to arriving. Until then, sneaking into the tournament and hoping guys get hot hands is as good as it gets.

Look at Kihei Clark (Virginia’s PG). I know it’s not a great time to be talking about Clark, whose errant pass ended up losing the game for Virginia on Thursday, but look at Clark’s build.5’10, 170lbs. Look at his stats. Mid-30s shooting % from 3. Hight 70s from the FT line. The guy is nothing special when it comes to the numbers, but he’s a leader and he distributes the basketball to the right guys at the right time. Tony Bennett has started Clark for 4 years despite the fact that he’s coaching a team that is always in the running to win the ACC and won a national championship less than 5 years ago.  He could replace Clark with an elite, tall, athlete at any moment. But he doesn’t. Why? Because he understands what I’m talking about. It’s a puzzle that coaches need to put together, and one piece of that puzzle is a guy like this.

I was wrong about this game. I thought things would play out differently. They didn’t. I’m not blaming anyone in particular, but the makeup of this team vs. the makeup of teams that play deep into March are different. Maybe this is step one to getting there. We’ll have to see how the roster shapes up next season.

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VIDEO: NC State falls to Creighton 72-63 in first round of NCAA Tournament | Extended Highlights & Box Score

NC State came out flat, DJ Burns looked gassed, and for the most part, the Pack looked shell-shocked vs. Creighton from the opening tip. However, Terquavion Smith is excluded from all of that. He was amazing and in what was likely his final game at NC State, he kept the Pack afloat, dropping 32 points on 12-25 shooting. In the end, it wasn’t enough as their big man, 7’1 Ryan Kalkbrenner went for 31.

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NC State came out flat, DJ Burns looked gassed, and for the most part, the Pack looked shell-shocked vs. Creighton from the opening tip. However, Terquavion Smith is excluded from all of that. He was amazing and in what was likely his final game at NC State, he kept the Pack afloat, dropping 32 points on 12-25 shooting. In the end, it wasn’t enough as their big man, 7’1 Ryan Kalkbrenner went for 31.

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VIDEO: Smith, Joiner and Keatts talk in postgame press conference

Terquavion Smith, Jarkel Joiner and Kevin Keatts meet with the media after 72-63 loss to Creighton in the NCAA Tournament.

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Terquavion Smith, Jarkel Joiner and Kevin Keatts meet with the media after 72-63 loss to Creighton in the NCAA Tournament.

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Wolferetti: 3 reasons why NC State is going to win today

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God bless these guys over here at PI. I submitted this article to them this morning and got this back.

“Joey, this is a good piece, but are you sure you want to come out and say that NC State is going to win? Why not just do a ‘keys to the game.’ or something? Hedge your bets. Why are you always wanting to put your reputation on the line?”

To that I say, “Nah, I’m good. I want my reputation on the line. What fun is this if I’m not callin’ it like I see it?”

Look, they’ve been worried about me stating outlandish opinions before. Like when I said after game #1, after I first laid eye on this team, that it was going to be a team that will flirt with or get into the Top 25? I got hammered for that, but was I right? And today I’m back on my prediction tip, telling you that NC State will survive and advance. And here are my 3 reasons why.

1. Creighton hasn’t fared well against teams with great Turnover Margins.

If Creighton has a glaring weakness, it’s turnover margin.

NC State’s turnover margin ranks 16th in the NCAA. Creighton’s is a miserable 291st. This means Creighton turns the ball over a lot and doesn’t create many turnovers. Meanwhile, NC State is the exact opposite. They create a lot of turnovers and really protect the basketball. This statistic right here is going to play a major role. The Creighton guards, especially Nembhard, can get sped up, and when they do, they can get sloppy and out of control. Meanwhile, Joiner and Smith flourish at top speed.

Let’s look at the one team that Creighton lost to every time they played them (and played them multiple times). That team is Marquette.

What do Marquette and NC State have in common? Well, they are both Top 20 in the nation in Turnover Margin. Marquette ranks #3 in the NCAA while the Pack is 16th. Creighton turned it over 18 times in their first meeting at Marquette. The second time these two teams met, Creighton turned it over 15 times.

The other teams they faced in the Top 50 of Turnover Margin in the nation?

#39 Arizona State
#10 Texas

That’s it. And guess what, Creighton lost every single one of those games. They have yet to beat a team in the Top 50 in Turnover Margin.

Reminder. NC State ranks 16th.

2. Large, back-to-the-basket bigs have fared well against Creighton

6’9, 245lb, Adama Sanogo from UConn dropped 17 against them in a win.

6’9, 215lb, Oso Ighodaro from Marquette dropped 16 on them in their first meeting, and then 18 in their second.

6’7, 220lb, Bryce Hopkins from Providence scored 20 on them in both meetings. One of which was a win.

All of these guys are big, strong, back-to-the-basket bigs and all of them bullied their way to huge games again Creighton.

In all 3 instances, Creighton refused to double-team on most possessions and the big men ate. So how will they deal with a big that is bigger than any of these guys?

DJ Burns is 6’9, 275lbs and he’s going to be a focal point for NC State in this game. If Creighton opts to play Burns straight up, history says they are going to have a long night and Burn is going to have a big game.

3. Creighton hasn’t seen guards like Joiner and Smith

Sure Creighton has quick guards. Nembhard, the 6’0 PG rarely gets a matchup where he doesn’t have a quickness advantage. Today, against Joiner, he won’t have one. There is so much talk about Creighton’s guards bottling up their opponents, but watch them play and you’ll see that they simply haven’t had to face guys like Joiner or Smith. Creighton will allow the floor to be spread and will not fight against playing this game at a fast pace, and those are the types of games we’ve seen the NC State guards feast.

Creighton is a very good team. They have some very good pieces, but I just think they’ve found themselves in a matchup that isn’t very good for them despite being data-darlings. I could be wrong, but to me, this looks like a game where people are reading off statistics and making assumptions without watching film. Without looking at each team’s Achilles heel. And without really breaking down the matchups.

I think this is a really good matchup for the Pack and I think I’ll be back talking to you in about 24 hours looking at who the guys will play on Sunday.

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