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This Miss State Game has Turned into a Must Win for NC State Football

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Coming into the season, I immediately circled three games on State’s football schedule:

  • Clemson – A chance AT HOME to take down the school that has run ACC football for close to a decade.
  • UNC – If I need to explain why…get off our site
  • @Miss State – And here we go…

Beyond winning, let alone making it to the ACC Championship, this game against Miss State maybe one of the most important games in Doeren’s career. It has short-term and long-term influence on the program, regardless of MSU’s standing within the SEC.

This Miss State game has turned into a must win for State.

 

Sad History

Honestly? Would have thought we’d have played at least a couple dozen SEC road games in our history and split a good chunk of them. We overlap regionally, comparable to mid-size SEC schools, and it just seemed very plausible for a steady stream of matchups and wins.

I was wrong. And it’s not good.

1-14-1 in SEC road games?!?!? One freaking win ever?!?! As Rob mentions, we have beat SEC schools, just prior to them actually being SEC schools. But the fact remains, things historically aren’t on our side.

A win would allow us to get the preverbal “monkey off our back”, when it comes to the SEC.

 

Short-Term Momentum

Doeren has never had this much talent and experience on one team. When you look at the schedule again (and I know it’s only been one week and things will change, but just let me live out this dream scenario), it looks good for State to make some serious noise. Maybe Miami, Louisville, FSU and Clemson just aren’t what we thought heading into the year. The mix of home games and away games, work out real nice for the Pack.

Which is why this game is so important.

If the Wolfpack can go into a tough place like Starkville AT NIGHT and get a win, this gives them the momentum for that run to a Week 6 bye. Take care of business in this road game and them come back for three games at good ol’ Carter-Finley.

State would crack the top-25, while gaining a road SEC win for their resume come December. They would feel like they’re clicking on all cylinders.

The momentum gained could be a serious tipping point on what this team could accomplish this season.

 

Long-Term Success

There are going to be folks reading this article saying to themselves, “Why are we putting the SEC on such a pedestal?” Because they win, have the utmost respect and are the steadiest of conferences for producing the best teams in the country, Every. Damn. Year. If you want to be considered a contender, you have to be in the conversation with the SEC.

And that goes for long-term recruiting, as well. Which is point three of the importance of winning against Miss State.

If you are a stud recruit in the Southeast (or frankly anywhere…but…you know), you dream of big time football in night games like this. Right now, however, there is nothing that Doeren can tell these kids on why it’s better to be in Raleigh, than a backup in Athens, Baton Rouge or even damn Starkville.

A win means another feather in the cap of the recruiting circuit that says;

  • Win the state of North Carolina
  • Not only be bowl eligible, but be closer to New Year’s Day
  • We can hang with any conference in the country

I know Miss State ain’t the best in the conference. But I’d rather beat them then get blown out like a Miami or look like poop as Louisville did against Ole Miss. You build a program by the wins you gain. This would be a big one, regardless of where the Bulldogs end up in final standings.

If State shows up and wins, they gain eyes all across the Carolinas and one more notch in their experience belt.


Now I get that State can lose and that doesn’t affect us whatsoever for an ACC crown. I would also ABSOLUTELY trade a Miss State loss to go 11-1 in the regular season.

But for a fanbase that constantly wonders why we haven’t gotten over the hump…wonders if this team has the capabilities to be a contender…wonders if Doeren is even our guy.

Then this Miss State game has turned into a must win for NC State Football.

 

Passionate State fan that just wants to win...something...like anything...

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travelwolf
travelwolf
3 years ago

Yeah, somebody’s been smoking that wolf-nip (as opposed to catnip). Stay low to the ground and crashing down won’t hurt as much!

Papajohn
Papajohn
3 years ago

Wow! Win one game against a dog and Wolfpack fever is nuts. Fun stuff! I salute the ‘must win’ mentality, but I really need to see at least one win over a good team before drinking the annual “this is the year” Kool-Aid. Right now we’re just ‘Carolina good‘, meaning, we look good on paper.

Rev
Rev
3 years ago
Reply to  Papajohn

How true! We only have one win and starving NCSU fans are howling! However, we do need to beat Miss State. The ACC basically got embarrassed last week, and someone has to help the conference’s reputation, even if we can only beat one of lower echelon SEC teams.

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NC State vs. Cal Kickoff Time & TV Network Announced

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NC State and California will kickoff on the West Coast at 3:30pm on October 19th. The game will be televised on the ACC Network.

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Under Dave Doeren, NC State is 9-16 at the 3:30 time slot. If you include 3pm and 4pm kickoffs, the Wolfpack is 14-17 between 3-4pm since 2013.

2023

Virginia Tech – 35-28 (W)

2022

Syracuse – 9-24 (L)

Boston College – 20-21 (L)

UNC – 30-27 (W) (2OT)

2021

Clemson – 27-21 (W)

FSU – 28-14 (W) (4pm)

Syracuse – 41-17 (W) (4pm)

2020

Duke – 31-20 (W)

Georgia Tech – 23-13 (W) (4pm)

2018

Clemson – 7-41 (L)

FSU – 47-28 (W)

2017

South Carolina – 28-35 (L) (3pm)

Notre Dame – 14-35 (L)

Clemson – 31-38 (L)

UNC – 33-21 (W)

Arizona St. – 52-31 (W) (3pm)

2016

Wake Forest – 33-16 (W)

2015

Clemson – 41-46 (L)

UNC – 34-35 (L)

Miss St. – 28-51 (L)

2014

South Florida – 49-17 (W)

FSU – 41-56 (L)

Clemson – 0-41 (L)

Boston College – 14-30 (L)

Louisville – 18-30 (L)

Wake Forest – 42-13 (W)

2013

Central Michigan – 48-14 (W)

Wake Forest – 13-28 (L)

Syracuse – 10-24 (L)

FSU – 17-49 (L)

Duke – 28-30 (L) (4pm)

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NC State vs. WFU: Offensive PFF Grades Report

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NC State lost to Wake Forest 30-34 on Saturday in Carter-Finley Stadium. Here’s a PFF Grade Report for the Wolfpack Offense in Week 6.

Freshman Quarterback CJ Bailey – 84.8
Redshirt Senior Left Tackle Anthony Belton – 77.9
Junior Tight End Justin Joly – 75.7
Sophomore Running Back Kendrick Raphael – 71.9
Redshirt Freshman Wide Receiver Noah Rogers – 68.0
Redshirt Junior Left Guard Anthony Carter Jr. – 67.3
Freshman Wide Receiver Keenan Jackson – 63.9
Redshirt Sophomore Right Tackle Jacarrius Peak – 63.0
Redshirt Senior Center Zeke Correll – 62.7
Freshman Wide Receiver Terrell Anderson – 61.8
Junior Wide Receiver Wesley Grimes – 61.4
Redshirt Senior Running Back Jordan Waters – 59.9
Sophomore Wide Receiver Kevin Concepcion – 57.3
Redshirt Junior Wide Receiver Jakolbe Baldwin – 54.1
Redshirt Senior Right Guard Timothy McKay – 53.3
Junior Tight End Dante Daniels – 39.7

Notes

  • This was the highest grade of CJ Bailey’s career.
  • This was Anthony Belton’s highest grade of the season, and the 2nd highest grade of his career.
  • This was Kendrick Raphael’s highest grade of the season, and the 3rd highest grade of his career.
  • Wesley Grimes started instead of the injured Dacari Collins.

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NC State vs. WFU: Defensive PFF Grades Report

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NC State lost to Wake Forest 30-34 on Saturday in Carter-Finley Stadium. Here’s a PFF Grade Report for the Wolfpack Defense in Week 6.

Redshirt Freshman Nickel Tamarcus Cooley – 77.8
Senior Safety Bishop Fitzgerald – 77.3
Senior Defensive End Davin Vann – 69.6
Redshirt Junior Safety Rente Hinton – 69.3
Junior Nose Tackle Brandon Cleveland – 69.0
Redshirt Junior Defensive End Travali Price – 67.9
Senior Linebacker Devon Betty – 65.9
Redshirt Freshman Defensive End Isaiah Shirley – 65.7
Senior Cornerback Aydan White – 61.9
Senior Nose Tackle Chazz Wallace – 61.4
Senior Safety DK Kaufman – 61.3
Redshirt Freshman Linebacker Kamal Bonner – 58.9
Redshirt Senior Defensive End Noah Potter – 58.9
Redshirt Junior Linebacker Caden Fordham – 55.2
Redshirt Junior Linebacker Sean Brown – 54.9
Junior Cornerback Devon Marshall – 48.8
Senior Nickel Ja’Had Carter – 44.1
Redshirt Senior Safety Kerry Martin Jr. – 42.1

Notes

  • Tamarcus Cooley started for the 2nd straight week at Nickel, despite the return of Ja’Had Carter.
    • This was the highest grade of his career.
  • Bishop Fitzgerald returned to his starting position at Strong Safety (KJ Martin started last week).
    • This was his highest grade of his career.
  • NC State only had 2 defensive players with a grade of 70+.
  • This was Rente Hinton’s highest grade of his career.
  • Travali Price returned to his starting job at Defensive End (Isaiah Shirley started last week).
    • This was Price’s highest grade of the season, and his highest grade since Week 9 last year against Clemson.
  • Devon Marshall started in place of the injured Brandon Cisse, rather than Corey Coley Jr.
    • Unfortunately, he posted a grade of 48.8, which is the lowest grade of his career.
  • This was Ja’Had’s 2nd lowest grade of his college career.

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NC State vs. WFU: Defensive Snap Count Report

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NC State lost to Wake Forest 30-34 on Saturday in Carter-Finley Stadium. Here’s Snap Count Report for the Wolfpack Defense in Week 6.

Redshirt Junior Linebacker Sean Brown – 66
Redshirt Junior Linebacker Caden Fordham – 66
Senior Cornerback Aydan White – 66
Junior Cornerback Devon Marshall – 62
Senior Defensive End Davin Vann – 57
Junior Nose Tackle Brandon Cleveland – 53
Senior Safety DK Kaufman – 52
Senior Linebacker Devon Betty – 51
Senior Safety Bishop Fitzgerald – 48
Redshirt Freshman Nickel Tamarcus Cooley – 44
Redshirt Junior Defensive End Travali Price – 38
Redshirt Senior Defensive End Noah Potter – 27
Senior Nickel Ja’Had Carter – 20
Redshirt Freshman Isaiah Shirley – 18
Redshirt Senior Safety KJ Martin Jr. – 18
Redshirt Junior Safety Rente Hinton – 14
Redshirt Freshman Linebacker Kamal Bonner – 9
Senior Nose Tackle Chazz Wallace – 7
Redshirt Sophomore Cornerback Jackson Vick – 5
Senior Cornerback Corey Coley – 5

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