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OUR TAKE: On NC State’s 77-63 dominant win over Virginia



Just when the fan base seems to be slipping into apathy, NC State pulls you back in!

In all seriousness though, it was only a matter of time before NC State put together a game like this. They’ve been so close, so often this season, but continuously have come up short. At some point, they are either just going to wither and give up or decide to stop letting games even get close. Looks like they chose the latter against Virginia.

This was an extremely impressive game. I don’t think many will really understand just HOW impressive it was.

NC State shot 60% against Virginia. During Tony Bennett’s tenure (13 years), do you know how many other teams shot 60% or above vs. Virginia?

The answer is one. It was last year, and it was #1 Gonzaga, who shot 60.4%. Do you remember that team? The one that went 31-1. The one that people debated about being the best college team of all time? Yeah, it was them.

The Keatts-deniers are going to say this win was luck. Just some hot shooting. I’m going to tell you that you’re wrong. Sure, this team was hot, but that’s not why NC State was so dominant in this game. They were dominant because they played completely focused and completely fearless on both ends of the floor. They met Virginia’s physicality with physicality of their own. They disrupted Virginia’s offense by communicating on defense and using their length to challenge almost every shot.

Here are the other keys that we saw in the NC State’s win…

A change in minute distribution by Keatts

Keatts finally decided to trim his rotation down and we think this was a big key. Seabron, Smith, Hellems, Morsell, and Dowuona played 82% of the minutes. This is NC State’s best 5 and it was good to finally see him really push them to play most of the minutes. Thomas Allen played just 5 minutes and Cam Hayes tied a season-low with 8 minutes. Both guys will still get their moments, but as of now, Keatts is leaning heavily on the guys who are giving him the most efficient minutes on both ends of the floor. For a team that has been losing games by just a couple of possession, every substitution matters, and Keatts seems to be accepting that.

Morsell back to logging major minutes

Honestly, the biggest change was Morsell getting the start and getting back to the type of minutes he was getting early in the season, prior to injury. He’s looked ready for a couple of games now, but this was the first one where Keatts fully committed to him starting and playing a majority of the game.

Morsell rewarded him with 12 points, 2 steals and tied a season-high with 7 rebounds. He shot 5-7 from the floor and 2-3 from 3. Morsell is now shooting 38.9% from 3. That’s second-best on the team behind Jericole Hellems elite 41.5%. On top of that Morsell is providing elite-level defense, he’s a strong attacker off the bounce, and he’s good in transition. Morsell is an absolute key to NC State’s success, and while Hellems and Smith will get a lot of the hype here, Morsell playing major minutes was a needle mover for this team.

Hellems quietly rounding into final form

Jericole Hellems was supposed to be NC State’s most consistent scorer. He was their leading returning scorer but struggled early on with his shooting. Lately, that’s all in the past. Hellems is shooting 41.5% from 3 point range on the season (That’s 5th overall in the ACC for guys who have 80 or more attempts). He’s shooting a blistering 62% from the floor over the past 4 games, and he’s making some insanely tough shots. This is the level they need Hellems to play if they want to really make a late-season run.

He finished with a team-high 21 points on 8-12 shooting and 5-9 from beyond the arc.

I don’t think you understand how good Terquavion Smith is

Terquavion Smith is a freshman, but you wouldn’t know it by watching him. Everyone focuses on his high-level confidence, but what I see is more a lack of fear. He’s a kid who, yes, is very confident in his ability. But he’s a guy who isn’t scared of anyone. He isn’t scared of any moment and he isn’t scared of failure.

Meanwhile, all of that is equating into one heck of a freshman season. In this one, Smith single-handedly kept the Pack in the game early as he hit 3 early 3s and had a great drive to the hoop for a layup. The team fed off of him and the rest is history.

Smith finished with 20 points on 8-13 shooting and was 4-7 from 3.

Now, let’s look at just how good of a freshman season he’s having.

Smith is 2nd in the ACC in scoring for freshmen. He’s shooting the highest percentage from 3 of any freshman and has attempted and hit more 3s than ANYONE in the ACC. That’s right, no one has hit more 3s than Terquavion Smith. He leads the ACC with 55.


Breon Pass providing big value in small sample sizes

Pass is in the midst of working his way into being the first guy off the bench for Kevin Keatts. The freshman PG played 9 minutes in this one and played nearly perfect. He defended well, he protected the ball as the lead guard, he scored on a contested drive at the rim, and he knocked down an open 3.

What more can you ask for from a backup PG? The kid is giving Keatts the option of moving Seabron off the ball for spurts which is important, especially now since teams are opting to guard him with smaller guards in hopes to keep him out of the lane.

Pass played 9 minutes, finished with 5 points on 2-2 shooting. He had one rebound, one assist and zero turnovers. He is making his case to be the first guy off the bench for NC State.

It’s all about defense going forward

Keatts lineup adjustments has the NC State offense humming. Hellems is one of the ACCs best shooters. Terquavion Smith is one of the ACCs best shooters. Dereon Seabron is one of the ACCs best all-around offensive players. And Casey Morsell is rounding into form (and the 2nd best 3pt shooter in terms of %).

NC State doesn’t have an offense problem. That narrative from early in the season was eliminated when Seabron moved to the point and the ball started moving move.

NC State’s key moving forward is defense. And with Casey Morsell now logging major minutes, NC State doesn’t really have a weak link defensively, and they are in fact, led on defesnse by Morsell.

Sure, Dowuona is still going to struggle with certain bigs, and losing Manny Bates will always hurt, but you’re seeing the best version possible of this NC State team.

…and it wouldn’t surprise us if this was the beginning of a big late-season run.

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1 year ago

This is one of the most understandable and logical analyses I have seen of one of Keatts’ teams – in fact, of just about any NC State team!! Thanks for the time and effort that I am sure it takes to do this!!

1 year ago

This was a great win. I’m hopeful we’re in the midst of a late season run but the funniest part about yesterday’s game is that for me at least, the summary of this whole season is that I’m only comfortable with a twenty-point lead. That I imagine is PTSD runoff from games where we squandered leads while the wheels simply came off the bus. Don’t get me wrong, every win whether by one, two, or eighteen, is a good one, but I just struggle to relax because of our crazy scoring droughts. Hopefully now we have enough working parts where… Read more »

1 year ago

“…beginning of a big late-season run”
Hope you are right. But I think about the best we can hope for is the team finishing strong, and looking forward to next year – like the football team is doing.

1 year ago
Reply to  Papajohn

As State fans, we all live in hope. I remember when almost every ACC game came down to the last 2 minutes. Even then, two or three possessions make the difference. I don’t think any freshmen come into the league realizing the level of intensity required on defense, or the constant focus on every possession. If you have enough experience to work them in slowly, teams do much better the first half of the season. So, I really hope this IS the beginning of a late season run.

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NC State is a Slight Underdog in ACC Opener vs. Boston College



NC State (4-2) will play their first ACC game of the 2023-24 season tomorrow on the road against Boston College (5-2), and they enter the game as slight underdogs. The Wolfpack are 1.5-point underdogs, and the Total is 150.5.

  • NC State is 0-2 Straight Up as underdogs
    • BC is 4-1 Straight Up as favorites.
  • NC State is 2-4 Against the Spread.
    • BC is 4-3 Against the Spread
  • The Total has gone Under in 2 games for NC State, Over in 3 and Pushed in 1.
    • The Total has gone Under in 3 games for Boston College and Over in 4.
  • NC State is 6-4 in their last 10 games against BC Straight Up.
    • NC State is 4–6 Against the Spread in their last 10 games against BC.
    • The Total has gone Under in 5 games, and Under in the other 5.

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#5 NC State 70 Vanderbilt 62: BOX SCORE (with notes)



The 5th ranked NC State Women’s Basketball team improved to 8-0 tonight, defeating Vanderbilt 70-62 in the inaugural ACC/SEC Challenge.


  • Saniya Rivers scored 20+ points for the 2nd time this season, scoring 22 points on 8 of 14 shooting. She also chipped in 8 rebounds and 2 steals.
  • River Baldwin posted her first double-double of the season. She scored 12 points and grabbed 10 boards.
  • Aziaha James has now scored in double figures in 7 of 8 games, scoring 14 points tonight, shooting 6 of 10 from the field and 2 of 3 from beyond the arc.
  • Freshman Zoe Brooks led the Pack in steals (4) and assists (4).
  • NC State didn’t shoot well, making only 39% of their shots. Fortunately, they held Vandy to 34.3% shooting.

The Wolfpack will host Illinois State on Sunday at 2pm.

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NC State Stat Leaders Heading into the ACC Opener vs Boston College



This Saturday, NC State heads to Boston College for the now-annual early ACC opener. The Pack will face off against the Eagles at 4pm on ACC Network. Here is where the team is statistically after 6 games.

  • Casey Morsell leads NC State in scoring with 14.5 ppg.
  • The Pack has 4 double-digit scorers this season. Morsell (14.5), Jayden Taylor (13.3), DJ Burns (13) and DJ Horne (11.2)
    (Last season State had 4 double-digit scorers as well. Terquavion (17.9), Joiner (17), Burns (12.5) and Morsell (11.8)) 
  • After their top 4 scorers there is a big dip. Parker comes in at 6.8, O’Connell at 6.3, and Middlebrooks at 5.5 ppg.
    (Last season Jack Clark was 5th on the team in scoring at 9 points and Mahorcic was at 8.7. However, both guys missed a large chunk of the season.) 
  • Burns is leading NC State in rebounding this year at 5.3 per game. Diarra is next with 5.3 (but is currently hampered by an ankle injury.) 
  • O’Connell is leading NC State in assists with 3.3 per game, and Burns is up next with 2.5. PG DJ Horne is only averaging 2.
  • LJ Thomas and Mike O’Connell are tied in leading the team at .15 assists per minute.
  • Jayden Taylor is leading NC State in 3pt %, shooting an outstanding 45.8%, while Morsell is up next at 34.6%. Horne is close behind at 33%.
    (LJ Thomas is shooting 50% from 3, but only has 2 attempts.) 
  • Burns is leading the bigs, shooting 56.5% from the floor, while Middlebrooks is close behind at 54.2%. Dennis Parker Jr is coming in at 45.2%.
  • For the guards, it’s Casey Morsell leading the way at 44.6% from the floor, while O’Connell is next up at 43.4%. Taylor is shooting 42.4%, and DJ Horne is struggling a bit, shooting just 34.8% from the field.
  • Jayden Taylor is turning the ball over the most at 1.8 times per game, while Burns is next at 1.7. Morsell is at 1.5 and O’Connell is at 1.2. DJ Horne has been doing a good job of protecting the basketball, turning it over just .3 times per game.

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NC State 52 Ole Miss 72: Box Score (with notes)



NC State’s Men’s Basketball team lost it’s second straight game tonight, losing 52-72 on the road at Ole Miss in the inaugural ACC/SEC Challenge. Below is the Box Score with some notes below.


  • Ben Middlebrooks posted a double-double, with 13 points and 12 boards. To be honest, Middlebrooks was the only bright spot in this game.
  • Casey Morsell was the only other player to score in double figures (12 points), but it wasn’t pretty, shooting 5 of 14 from the field.
  • One of the poorest statistical shooting performance I can remember.
    • NC State shot 31.8% from the field and 12% from three (3-25).
  • The Wolfpack’s DNA on defense is turning over their opponent, and they were unable to do so tonight, turning over the Rebels only 7 times.
    • For comparison, the Wolfpack turned it over 13 times, giving them a Turnover Margin tonight of -6.
    • Heading into tonight, they averaged a Turnover Margin of +7.8.
    • Ole Miss scored 13 points off of turnovers, compared to NC State’s 4.
    • This is the first time this season that NC State failed to force their opponent to commit at least 10 turovers.
  • NC State was -25 when D.J. Burns was on the court, which was the worst on the team.
    • NC State was +3 when L.J. Thomas was on the court, and +2 when Ben Middlebrooks were on the court. They were the only two players in the positive.
    • Thomas and Middlebrooks should have earned themselves some more playing time going forward.
  • Ole Miss’ length was problematic for the Wolfpack, blocking 9 of their shots.

There will be more analysis on this game coming tomorrow.

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