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What will Ryan Finley’s Legacy Be at NC State?

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Quarterback Ryan Finley decided to return for his final college season because he wanted to be the best quarterback in college football, win an ACC Championship, and leave a legacy at NC State.

There have been a lot of great quarterbacks for the Wolfpack through the years. People debate which school is QBU, but no one had more former quarterbacks start an NFL game last season (Rivers, Wilson, Glennon and Brissett). The question is, at seasons end, how will Finley’s legacy stack up compared to NC State greats.

In my opinion, I think that Finley could finish as one of the Top 2 or 3 quarterbacks in NC State history.

Facts are friends, so let’s project statistically where Finley could finish his career, and see if that helps clarify things for us. Finley currently has 6,577 passing yards through 2 seasons as the starter. If he were to simply match his total from last season (3,514 yards), he would become only the second quarterback in NC State history to pass for over 10,000 yards (10,091) besides Philip Rivers (13,484). In fact, if this were to happen, Rivers would have only averaged 8 more passing yards per season. Realistically, I think Finley does more than match his numbers from last season. I think he will throw for closer to 4,000 yards, which would make his season average superior to Rivers. The only quarterback that has a superior season average to Rivers is Mike Glennon (3,705).

NC State Quarterback Stat Leaders

Passing Yards
1. Philip Rivers, 2002-03 – 13,484
2. Jamie Barnette, 1996-99 – 9,461
3. Russell Wilson, 2008-10 – 8,545
4. Mike Glennon, 2009-12 – 7,411
5. Ryan Finley, 2016-pres. – 6,577
6. Terry Harvey, 1991,93-995 – 5,925
7. Shane Montgomery, 1987-89 – 5,298
8. Jacoby Brissett, 2014-15 – 5,268
9. Erik Kramer, 1985-86 – 4,602
10. Dave Buckey, 1972-75 – 4,286

One of the knocks on Finley’s legacy thus far has been his lack of passing touchdowns, picking up only 35 through 2 seasons, which ranks 7th all-time. He has never passed for more than 20 touchdowns in a season (18 & 17). Rivers passed for 20+ touchdowns 3 times (30+ one time), Wilson did it 3 times (30+ two times) and Glennon threw 30+ touchdowns in both of the seasons he was the starter. If he simply matches his total from last season, he would finish with 52 career passing touchdowns, which would rank 5th. A 30+ touchdown season would go a long way in solidifying Finley as one of the greatest quarterbacks in school history, ranking him 3rd all-time.

Passing Touchdowns
1. Philip Rivers, 2000-03 – 95
2. Russell Wilson, 2008-10 – 76
3. Mike Glennon, 2009-12 – 63
4. Jamie Barnette, 1996-99 – 59
5. Jacoby Brissett, 2014-15 – 43
6. Terry Harvey, 1991, 93-95 – 38
7. Ryan Finley, 2016-pres. – 35
8. Shane Montgomery, 1987-89 – 31
9. Erik Kramer, 1985-86 – 30
10. Dave Buckey, 1972-75 – 22

Yards and touchdowns are obviously important, but they aren’t the only factors that determine the effectiveness of a quarterback. Currently, Finley ranks second in passing efficiency, interception avoidance, and completion percentage, no doubt solidifying him as one of the most effective quarterbacks to every play at NC State.

Passing Efficiency
1. Philip Rivers, 2000-03 – 144.16
2. Ryan Finley, 2016-pres. – 135.64
3. Russell Wilson, 2008-10 – 135.47
4. Jacoby Brissett, 2014-15 – 133.39
5. Dave Buckey, 1972-75 – 133.12

Interception Avoidance
1. Jacoby Brissett, 2014-15 – 765/11 – 1.44
2. Ryan Finley, 2016-pres. – 881/14 – 1.59
3. Philip Rivers, 2000-03 – 1,710/34 – 1.99
4. Russell Wilson, 2008-10 – 1,180/26 – 2.20
5. Mike Glennon, 2009-12 – 1,069/31 – 2.90
6. Terry Jordan, 1989-92 – 504/15 – 2.98
7. Jose Laureano, 1995-96 – 160/5 – 3.13
8. Jamie Barnette, 1996-99 – 1,243/40 – 3.22
9. Pete Thomas, 2013 – 247/9 – 3.64
10. Terry Harvey, 1991-94 – 793/30 – 3.78

Completion Percentage 
1. Philip Rivers, 2000-03 – 63.6%
2. Ryan Finley, 2016-pres. – 63.0%
3. Mike Glennon, 2009-12 – 60.4%
4. Terry Jordan, 1989-92 – 60.1%
5. Jacoby Brissett, 2014-15 – 59.9%

I think Finley has good chance to finish his career with the best completion percentage, trailing Rivers by only 0.6% heading into the season.

When it comes to the success of a quarterback, you can’t just pin it down to individual statistics. You also have to analyze their ability to lead their team to victory. Finley’s winning percentage trails Rivers, but it is currently greater than Glennon, Wilson and Brissett.

Winning Percentage

Philip Rivers – 67%
Ryan Finley – 62%
Mike Glennon – 58%
Jacoby Brissett – 58%
Russell Wilson – 53%

Rivers led NC State to 8+ wins in 3 of his 4 seasons, and led the Wolfpack to 11 wins in 2002, which is the most wins ever in a single season. Wilson led NC State to a 9 win season. Finley also led NC State to a 9 win season last year. Only 11 NC State teams have every won 9 or more games, and Rivers, Finley and Wilson account for 3 of them.

Last year Finley did something even Rivers never did, leading the Wolfpack to 6 ACC wins, which was the most since 1992. In fact, only 6 NC State teams have ever won 6+ ACC games in a single season.

Signature Wins

For a quarterback to solidify their legacy at NC State, they have to have at least 1 “signature” win, if not multiple.

Philip Rivers – 2001 – at #10 FSU. 2002 – #14 FSU & #11 Notre Dame in the Gator Bowl.
Russell Wilson – 2008 – #15 ECU & @ #25 UNC. 2009 – #23 UNC. 2010 – #16 FSU & #22 WVU in Champs Sports Bowl.
Mike Glennon – 2011 – #7 Clemson. 2012 – #3 FSU
Ryan Finley – 2017 – @ #12 FSU

No disrespect to the Wolfpack’s win over #12 FSU last season, but they were without starter Deondre Francois. As a result, I don’t think Finley has picked up a signature win yet. Finley has a first opportunity for a signature win on September 15th against #17 West Virginia at home, and if he can finally get the Wolfpack over the hump and beat #2 Clemson, he would be forever loved.

Rankings

Rivers led NC State to a final ranking of #12 after the 2002 season. Russell Wilson led the Wolfpack to a #25 ranking at the end of 2010. NC State finished 23rd under Finley in 2017, and if he leads the Wolfpack to another Top-25 finish, he will have done something that Rivers and Wilson never did.

Accolades

(Roman Gabriel won the ACC Player of the Year award in 1960 and 1961, and he was a legend in his own right, but the game was drastically different, and so was the position.)

Out of the quarterbacks that I consider the greatest in NC State history, Rivers is the only one to have won the ACC Player of the Year and the ACC Offensive Player of the Year. If Finley were to pick up an end of the year ACC award or National award, his legacy would be solidified.

ACC Title

None of the greatest quarterbacks in Wolfpack history have led the team to an Atlantic Division Title or an ACC Championship. If Finley could bring the Wolfpack a banner, I’d be willing to argue Finley’s significance in NC State’s history books alongside Rivers.

Conclusion

In my opinion, if Finely has the season he could, you could make a solid case that he will finish as the #2 quarterback in NC State history.

Matthew is Publisher and Co-Owner of Pack Insider. He is also the Lead Pastor of The Point Church in Cary, NC.

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FAU Transfer Defensive Tackle Decarius Hawthorne is Taking an Official Visit to NC State Next Week

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FAU Defensive Tackle Transfer Decarius Hawthorne (6’2″/295) confirmed with me that he is taking an Official Visit to NC State next week, beginning on Tuesday. Arkansas is expected to host him on Sunday.

Hawthorne entered the Portal on April 26th.

This past season, Hawthorne had 18 tackles, 7 tackles for loss and 4.5 sacks in 12 games for the Owls. All of those numbers were career highs for Hawthorne.

ON3 ranks Hawthorne as a 3-Star prospect in the Transfer Portal, and the #46 Defensive Lineman in the Portal.

NC State is in desperate need for depth at Nose Tackle. They return Junior Brandon Cleveland and Redshirt Sophomore DJ Jackson, and True Freshman Justin Terrell will arrive in the Fall.

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Congrats to NC State Football’s Spring Graduates!

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Congratulations to the 7 NC State Football Players that just graduated this Spring.

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2024 Football Spring Graduates

Linebacker Devon Betty (1 year of eligibility)

Defensive End Davin Vann (1 year of eligibility)

Cornerback Aydan White (1 year of eligibility)

Offensive Guard Anthony Carter Jr. (2 years of eligibility)

Offensive Lineman Matt McCabe (2 years of eligibility)

Offensive Tackle Patrick Matan (2 years of eligibility)

Offensive Lineman Brendan Lawson (no longer on the roster)

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Proposed Bill in the NC House Would Require NC State & UNC To Play One Another, as well as ECU, UNCC and App St.

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A bill has been proposed by members of the North Carolina House of Representatives that would force NC State and UNC to play one another, as well as East Carolina, UNC Charlotte and Appalachian State.

According to House Bill 965, which you can read here in full, NC State and UNC would be required to play one another annually in Football, Men’s Basketball and Women’s Basketball. The Wolfpack and the Tar Heels would also be forced to play a game annually in all three sports against either ECU, UNC-Charlotte or App St. Every six years, NC State and UNC would be required to have played a home and away game against each of the three school in all three sports.

Here’s the exact wording from the proposed bill:

Competition Required. – A high-enrollment institution shall do all of the following in each eligible sport: (1) Every academic year, play at least one home or one away game against (i) another high-enrollment institution and (ii) an eligible constituent institution that is not a high-enrollment institution. (2) Every six academic years, play at least one home and one away game against each eligible constituent institution that is not a high-enrollment institution. A high-enrollment institution shall alternate home and away games that are scheduled against the same eligible constituent institution that is not a high-enrollment institution.

For glossary of terms being referenced above:

For the purposes of this bill, “High-enrollment institutions” = NC State and UNC, while “Eligible constituent institutions” = East Carolina, UNC Charlotte and Appalachian State.

It’s worth noting that NC State already has games schedule against each of these teams home-and-away in Football between now and 2031.

2025 – East Carolina (H)

2025 – @ App St.

2026 – App St. (H)

2028 – @ East Carolina

2030 – Charlotte (H)

2031 – @ Charlotte

What are your thoughts?

For more details, check out this article at WRAL.

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Akron Safety Kerry Martin Jr. will Take an Official Visit at NC State Next Week

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Akron Safety Kerry Martin Jr. (6’1″/195) confirmed with me that he will be taking an Official Visit to NC State next week beginning on May 7th.

After receiving an offer from NC State yesterday, it didn’t take him long to set up the visit.

Martin Jr. is familiar with NC State, because he was recruited by Wolfpack Defensive Coordinator Tony Gibson before he left West Virginia to come to Raleigh. Even though he never coached him, a relationship was established.

Martin Jr.’s connections to NC State are deeper than that. Former NC State Cornerback Derrek Pitts, who is currently a member of the Tampa Bay Bucs, is his cousin.

This past year, Martin Jr. recorded 45 tackles, 2 interceptions and 6 pass breakups for Akron, starting in 9 of the 11 games he played in. His PFF Grade was 68.9.

In 2022, he had 53 tackles, 1 interception and 1 pass breakup, starting in 9 of the 11 games he played in. Martin Jr.’s PFF Grade was 60.9.

In 2019, as a Freshman for West Virginia, Martin Jr. earned PFF Freshman All-American honors, recording a grade of 70.6, with 50 tackles and 3 pass breakups.

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