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Pick and Roll Problems: Is it time to hand PG reins to LJ Thomas?

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NC State likes to do two things on offense. They like to get the ball down into the post and use DJ Burns as a point man and they like to use high ball screens to get pick and roll action.

They primarily do this to create switches, but this is the ACC and entire rosters have been created to deal with switches. Meanwhile, the teams that don’t switch as much (Virginia), have been able to push the NC guards out enough to give their man enough time to recover and get back into position.

If you’re going to use high-screens (pick and rolls) to initiate your offense, then you HAVE TO make them worthwhile.

Let me explain…

The pick and roll is the hardest play to guard in basketball if you run it correctly, but you have the right personnel in place.

First off, the perfect personnel would be a big who is big, wide, and has a decent jumper, allowing him to either pick and roll or pick and pop. Meanwhile, the guard should be able to shoot it with consistency and also create rim pressure. If you have all of this and execute with precision, then the defense has no choice but to be on their heels.

Here is how it should work…

1) The big needs to set a nice, wide, physical screen.

2) THE GUARD SHOULD GO OFF THE BIG MANS SHOULDER and start forcing pressure downhill.

If you go off too wide and leave room for your defender to slip through, you’ve failed. You need to set up your defender with the dribble and then take an angle that runs him into the screen. This forces him to either go UNDER the screen (leaving you open for a shot), or over the screen, forcing the big man’s defender to stop the ball handler. If the screener rolls correctly, he’ll have a mismatch

If the big’s defender hedges out to contain, the guard should split the defense and knife to the lane. If the big’s defender sags to stop the drive, the guard should shoot.

Let’s look at the difference.

Here is LJ Thomas, the only NC State guard who constantly sets up his screens and puts downhill pressure on the defense off the high screen.

And here is DJ Horne, not going off the screener’s shoulder and taking it too wide, not putting any downhill pressure on the defense.

I’m not really blaming Horne here. Like I’ve said from day one, he’s a 2 guard by nature and these are intricacies that only come naturally to a true PG. This is why I constantly harp on this staff bringing in a TRUE PG that can thrive in the ‘Pick and Roll’.

Go back and watch the games, this poor use of ball screens has been a constant problem during the Keatts era and the foundational reason people keep saying ”

“The is no offense”… “We play AAU ball”… “We play selfish.”

None of those are true. There are a ton of schools that run the same actions we do and don’t look like they have offensive stagnation.

The real truth is, we fail to do the small things that make the pick and roll action valuable.

I’m sure the staff is teaching this (I hope), but sometimes it’s hard to change the entire basketball instinct of a lifelong scorer, to start playing like a true PG (reading angles, shifting speeds, creating space for others).

However, if you have guys who fail to do this, you have to correct it somehow, even if that means bench time for valuable players. It’s that important.

At the end of the day, this is something the coaches should be correcting as it is the difference between the offense action creating pressure on the defense, and the action being meaningless and forcing us into 1-on-1 iso situations.

So what’s the fix?

The best fix at this point has to be LJ Thomas getting more than 8 minutes per game.

He’s produced quality minutes all season long, and while he does give you a drop in defense (from Taylor/Horne) he has the instincts and skill set that need to be invested in. He’s not going to be a savior for NC State, but he moves the ball and is the only guard NC State has that has true PG instincts, understands how to attack the pick and roll (NC State’s most used action), and has enough skill to be dangerous scoring on 3 levels.

O’Connell does this but isn’t dangerous enough offensively. He’s shooting just 29% from 3 and he doesn’t create enough rim pressure, as he’s not really athletic enough to get in there and score amongst the trees.

This will be the hard part for Keatts. He wants to create massive defensive pressure all the time, but he’s doing so at the expense of offense and hoping the defense can create transition buckets. The problem is, the trade-off isn’t working. The defense is good, but it’s not creating enough offense to balance it out.

If NC State is going to turn this around it’s going to need Keatts to figure out a way to feature LJ Thomas as the point, while balancing the usage of Horne, Taylor, and Morsell at the 2/3. It’s really the only way I see this offense being able to kick into gear enough to make a late-season run.

But what do I know, right?

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Eileen
Eileen
3 months ago

Joey…this is the best plan I have seen. Coach Keatts is mot leaving. So all the “Couch Coaches” must accept another plan. This could be it.
And whoever thought Richardson could be the answer? He can’t.

mpalmer
mpalmer
3 months ago

The pick and roll will work if executed correctly. I don’t see how a team that consists mostly guards can’t find someone that can run a pick and roll correctly.

NCSUMets
NCSUMets
3 months ago

The offense is too stagnant. Part of it is playing two combo guards and part of it is the insistence on throwing the ball to Burns and then standing around.

I want to see two bigs – Burns, Diarra and Middlebrooks – on the floor at all time. If Keatts thinks Parker should play, he needs to be at small forward, with Morsell on the bench.

Keatts needs to face the fact that the best team he can put on the floor doesn’t have Burns, Morsell or Taylor out there.

wolfpack74
wolfpack74
3 months ago
Reply to  NCSUMets

I would include the white point guard as well. He can’t play defense. Try Thomas at the point, Horne at the two, and Parker at the three, with two bigs. The sad thing is we are still experimenting at this point in the season. I had high hopes for Rice, but he is gone.

NCSUMets
NCSUMets
3 months ago
Reply to  wolfpack74

I think the biggest problem with O’Connell is that he doesn’t have a jump shot. He’s not a great defender but he gives it everything he has on that end. I think the team plays better when he’s on the floor. But Thomas’ ability to hit a jumper may make him a better option.

wolfpack74
wolfpack74
3 months ago

Where is Dof87? Keep running from the truth boy. That 5-1 record you were so heavily praising is now 5-4 and the tough part of the schedule is just starting. I suggested that KK needs to be fired because he can’t coach and I still stand by that. Nothing has changed except more losses on the horizon.

wolfpack74
wolfpack74
3 months ago

The only fix is to get rid of KK. Richardson can do the job the rest of this season.

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