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Nitpicking the negatives from NC State’s 49 point season-opening win over Austin Peay

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I just slobbed all over this team in my last piece, going so far as to predict that they make or flirt with the Top 25 this season. But any good coach knows no game is perfect, and there are always things to work on.

Look, this was a 49-point win over a team that is going to be middle of the pack in the ASUN conference. But NC State hadn’t beaten a team by 50 since 2018-19 when they smoked St. Mary’s in the season opener 105-55.

That year they started off 13-1, but soon lost Markell Johnson to injury. The wheels fell off there for a bit as they were forced to rely on Braxton Beverly at the point with the only true backup being Blake Harris. They also had a thin front court with Funderburk and Wyatt Walker as the only two true bigs. Meanwhile, Devon Daniels hadn’t really figured it out yet, so they were forced to rely on CJ Bryce and Torin Dorn as their go-to scorer.

That team finished 22-11, 9-9 in the ACC, and in my opinion, was snubbed from the NCAA Tournament. They went on to win 2 games in the NIT before dropping a 1 point heartbreaker to Lipscomb.

This year’s Wolfpack is deeper, has more talent, has better guards, has better bigs, has more height, and has more athleticism. So I think any excitement you’re feeling is warranted and pointing out negatives in win this huge may seem petty, but real competition is right around the corner and there a few things I think can be cleaned up before then.

Jarkel Joiner got a little dribble happy at times
Joiner filled up the state sheet. The guy looked absolutely dominant and his skill set is going to play well even against the top guards in the conference. That said, there were times last night when he was pounding the ball a little too much.

This is likely a habit for him because he played on an Ole Miss team where he was asked to shoulder most of the scoring load. He didn’t have a ton of talent around him, but it’s different now. You have 4 other guys on the floor who can put it in the bucket.

That said, I’d like to see these dribble-happy possessions go away. He had so much success finding the open man (he had 8 assists) and even when he did isolate and attack one on one, most of the time positive things happened (he hit a contested jumper on one of these possessions), but when you face a UNC or a Kansas every possession matters and as a PG, keeping your team in a rhythm and moving the basketball is going to be important.

Now, you can argue that NC State was already up by 30+ when he started doing this and maybe he was trying to get his stats, and if so, that’s fine by me. However, I’m pointing it out because as the competition gets fierce, this type of basketball can get poisonous. But I dont have to tell you that, that’s how NC State has played over the past few seasons, and one of the reasons they’ve struggled.

Early in the game, when possessions mattered, Joiner was a true PG, slashing, probing and finding the open man. Shooting shots within the offense. I think that’s how he’s going to be. He’s a 5th year senior so he knows the ropes, but as a State fan who has seen that type of basketball ruin team rhythm, I want to point it out as something that COULD be a problem if it happens too much.

 

Breon Pass struggled to get it going
Pass is going to need to be a solid backup PG for the Pack. Joiner will obviously get the bulk of the minutes, but Pass has a role here too and last night it just looked like he was trying too hard.

At this point in his career, Pass needs to pick and choose his moments. He needs to get in there, make the simple play and knock down open shots. He’s super talented and was one of NC’s top scorers in HS, so eventually it’ll come, but in this one, he didn’t have it.

Pass finished with zero points, 1 assist, and 1 turnover in 14 minutes. He also fouled out.

It appeared that he was really wanting to make a play. Everyone had it going last night and clicking on all cylinders, so it makes sense that Pass wanted to get in on the action. I’ve seen enough of him to know that he’s capable of coming in and being a positive contributor, but he’s going to need to play within himself this season if he wants to really solidify his role. There is so much talent around him that all he needs to do is find his teammates, run the offense and defend. Anything more is icing on the cake in his year 2.

Ernest Ross wasn’t who he’s going to be
I’ve told you over and over, Ross is going to be a big-time player in this league. It’s not if, it’s when. Last night in 11 minutes he scored 6 points on 3-5 shooting, but he never really got into a groove. Most of the problem was his early 2 fouls sending him to the bench and when he got his minutes he seems to be forcing the issue. I don’t think he played great, but he played ok and had flashes, but I am expecting a lot more out of him this season.

Ross gives Keatts the ability to have 2 bigs on the floor, but not become slow and plodding. He allows NC State to have a true shot blocker on the floor. When they face strong, better bigs, they’ll have muscle up front to bang with them (Burns/Mahorcic). These physical bigs will create a lot of contact, likely keeping the offensive big man anchored to the floor on shots. This is going to have Ross’ mouth watering. He’s going to have the ability to block a lot of shots from help side, so having him able to stay on the floor and provide positive minutes is key. I think we see a better showing this Friday from Ernest.
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Ok, so there you have it. The negatives. Honestly, I’m grasping at straws here because this team played amazingly last night. If these things are our worst problems then NC State is going to have a huge season. However, this was game 1 and there is always room for improvement. These are the areas I’ll be focusing on this Friday when they take on Campbell at 7pm in Raleigh.

A pasta eatin', Wolfpack lovin' loudmouth from Raleigh by way of New Jersey. Jimmy V and Chuck Amato fanboy. All opinions are my own and you're gonna hear'em.

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Papajohn
Papajohn
1 year ago

Hadn’t thought about Joiner over dribbling. As you said, it’s a new role for him and we’ve got at least 30 more games. It’s not a coincidence that our two sophomores accumulated 9 of the teams 20 fouls. With experience, you figure that stuff out. Breon averaged 9 minutes a game last year, it’s time he stopped playing basketball like a football player so he can give us 15 mins a game this season. He’s got skills, need to coach him up.1 assist, 2 TO, and no points is not the way to earn minutes. Ross, on the other hand,… Read more »

Dof87
Dof87
1 year ago

Agree on Joiner, he used up early shot clock trying to find a hole to penetrate, if its not there pass the ball. There was lots of glowing talk during the summer about Pass. He may do better in games that aren’t quite as fast paced. As long as he’s playing good D and not making bad turnovers out high, he shouldn’t really need to do a lot as there are scorers and playmakers all around. The fact that he might be a drop off from Jarkel shouldn’t be seen as a negative toward him.

Last edited 1 year ago by Dof87

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Georgetown Transfer Dontrez Styles Commits to NC State!

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Georgetown Forward Transfer Dontrez Styles (6’6″/212) has committed to NC State!

Styles was the 2nd leading scorer for Georgetown this season, averaging 12.8 points per game, while grabbing 5.8 boards. He shot 36.8% from three.

Originally, Sytles was a consensus 4-Star prospect in UNC’s 2021 recruiting class. 247Sports ranked him as the #62 overall player nationally, and the #2 player in the state of North Carolina, playing for Kinston High School.

After two seasons with the Tar Heels, Styles entered the Portal, and took an Official Visit to NC State and Georgetown, and ultimately chose the Hoyas.

ON3 ranks Styles as the #104 overall player in the Portal.

With his final year of eligibility, Styles’ made the right choice this time.

NC State now has 2 scholarships remaining after Styles’ commitment.

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NC State Forward Katie Peneueta Enters the Transfer Portal

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NC State Forward Katie Peneueta is entering the Transfer Portal.

Peneueta transferred to NC State last offseason from Sacramento State, where she averaged 8.4 points, shooting 45.5% from three.

In her one year at NC State, Peneueta only played 8 games for the Wolfpack, battling injuries throughout the year. Peneueta has 1 year of eligibility.

With Peneueta entering the Portal, NC State now has 3 scholarships available heading into the 2024-25 season.

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Boston Center Caitlin Weimar is on an Official Visit to NC State

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Boston Transfer Center Caitlin Weimar (6’4″) is currently on an Official Visit to NC State.

Weimar is the reigning Patriot League Player of the Year, and has been named Defensive Player of the Year the past two years. She has earned 1st Team Patriot League Honors the past two seasons.

This year, Weimar averaged 18.7 points, 10.6 rebounds and 2.8 blocks. As a Junior, she averaged 15.5 points and 10.0 rebounds. She shot 55.5% this year, and 59.7% last year.

With NC State not having River Baldwin at Center next year, adding Weimar is an extremely exciting possibility.

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What did an ACC Title & Final Four Mean to NC State Legend TJ Warren?

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What did an ACC Title & Final Four mean to NC State Legend TJ Warren? I caught up with the man who won the ACC Player of the Year Award in 2014 to get his take.

What was it like for you watching NC State go from the #10 seed in the ACC Tournament, to winning the Championship, to going to the Final Four?

I’m a second generation Wolfpack basketball player. Wolf blood runs through my veins, so to be able to witness a ride like that was truly amazing.

What did this run say about Kevin Keatts and these players? In what ways did you see them adapt, change or persevere?

I think that is speaks to the heart that the players have. As a 10th seed in the ACC tournament, it’s easy to pack it in and look towards the offseason, but they did the opposite. They bonded together over adversity and that’s what made them so endearing. Hard work in the face of adversity, that’s something that Wolfpack fans can relate to.

As one of the best players to ever wear the Red & White, what did this run mean to you personally?

As I mentioned earlier, NCSU hoops has been in my family for a long time, so it meant a whole lot personally. This run definitely took me back to some of the fond memories I have of putting on the Red & White and playing in front of a packed house at the PNC.

What was the most memorable moment for you?

I think Mike’s shot to tie the game at the end of regulation. It just felt like destiny at that point. Anytime you get to beat UNC and Duke days apart is special too.

How do you think this run can change things for the NC State Basketball program going forward?

I think that it puts us back on the national radar where we belong. After a magical run like that, I think it makes players want to be a part of that. A run like that reinvigorates a program definitely.

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Warren is 1 of only 6 NC State players to ever be named the ACC Player of the Year. In his Sophomore season, Warren was named a 2nd Team All-American by Sporting News and the AP. He averaged 24.9 points per game, which is the 5th best mark in a single season in NC State history. Warren scored 871 points that year, which is the most points ever scored in a single season by a Wolfpack player.

TJ was selected by the Phoenix Suns with the 14th overall pick in the 2014 NBA Draft.

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