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Men’s Basketball: NC State 64 Clemson 78: BOX SCORE

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The NC State Men’s Basketball team fell to 11-4 and 1-3 in the ACC yesterday, losing to Clemson 64-78 0n the road. Below is the Box Score.

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Rev
Rev
1 year ago

If we end up 1-7 to start ACC play…Keatts should resign. There. I’ve put it in writing. I am tired of supporting a losing program. 40 years of total frustration is enough.

Papajohn
Papajohn
1 year ago

For me, the Clemson game was ‘the straw.’ The path to success (NCAAT) this season had to be, beat most of the mid and lower tier ACC teams, and get enough resume building upsets in the top tier. We did exactly what we needed to in the OOC but have failed so far in the ACC. Keatts can’t blame it on losing Dusan (although there is an argument to be made) because he told us repeatedly that he has 3 centers he can play, precisely to avoid this exact problem. And he added a 4th mid season. I don’t agree… Read more »

Afterglow
Afterglow
1 year ago
Reply to  Papajohn

I’m beginning to crawl ever closer to accepting that maybe this isn’t going to work. Like I said before, PackInisder, anyone, please explain why I’m wrong. I’ve been a steadfast supporter of Keats but agree, with too much freedom in an offense, maybe that’s just too much for a player to handle. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, a lot of my issues with Smith is he doesn’t play smart. But to Papajohn’s point, maybe it is more just a function of discipline which is the root cause of sloppy play and unwise decisions. Watching the game,… Read more »

Afterglow
Afterglow
1 year ago
Reply to  Afterglow

To add to my rant, think about how (specifically Smith) but other players as well, would respond in a system with more discipline. I know, you all are going to throw up in your mouth but something similar to what Coach K would have run. Smith in my opinion would be a far different play. End rant. For now.

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Rev
Rev
1 year ago

A truly disappointing performance. I have a friend who is a former coach. He has a very low opinion of Keatts. His main beef is Keatts’ teams’ lack of discipline. My main beef is that we rarely seem properly prepared, especially for road games. This game does nothing to dispel those opinions.

Maybe one game a year (Pittsburg) you forgive abysmal shooting. Now we have at least two. I wish I could encourage Afterglow, but I am too sad and angry and probably should just stop now.

AstroWolf
AstroWolf
1 year ago

Ok, we played a game without a key player who remains unavailable due to injury, our guys played tough but we got off to a slow start, didn’t shoot well from 3 or from 2, we got out-rebounded, our star player took way too many shots while missing most of them because the other team’s game plan focused on him, we didn’t pass or move the ball enough to get high percentage shots, we got mad at the refs, we didn’t implement effective adjustments, we lost against lower, middle or upper level ACC competition… I feel like Bill Murray in… Read more »

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Afterglow
Afterglow
1 year ago

We just shot poorly all around. I frankly stopped watching when we were 13 points down. I knew we weren’t going to win (felt it in my gut, I guess). I also may or may not have recorded the game, so when we were 13 points down, I may or may not have checked the interwebs to see that we lost confirming by gut was right. Anyway, we couldn’t get anything going on offense. Granted, I personally think we overshoot the 3, but that percentage wasn’t much better than our general field goal percentage. Not to say Clemon’s defense was… Read more »

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Here is the 2024 ACC Women’s Basketball Tournament Bracket

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The bracket for the 2024 ACC Women’s Basketball Tournament is here. The 10th ranked NC State is the #2 seed in the tournament, and their first game will be on Friday at 5pm on ACC Network.

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The Wolfpack will play the winner of the Duke (7 seed) vs. Georgia Tech (10 seed)/Pitt (15 seed).

NC State defeated Pitt 83-47 on February 11th, and they defeated Georgia Tech 86-85 on February 18th.

The Wolfpack lost to Duke 58-69 on February 25th. NC State entered the game as 1.5-point favorites, but ended up losing in enemy territory.

Georgia Tech defeated Pitt 68-58 on January 7th. Duke defeated both Georgia Tech and Pitt this season, defeating the Yellow Jackets 84-46 on January 14th, and the Panthers on 69-38 on February 1st.

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There is Reason to be Frustrated

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If you are an NC State fan, it’s only reasonable that you’re frustrated with the state of the Men’s Basketball program.

Under Kevin Keatts, NC State has gone to the NCAA Tournament twice in 7 seasons. The Wolfpack didn’t win a game in the Big Dance in either of those appearances.

Keatts has led NC State to a 3-5 record in the ACC Tournament, failing to reach the semifinals a single time.

You could make an argument that his first season in Raleigh was his best (I don’t think it was), because the Wolfpack finished 5th in the ACC, which is the highest the team has finished in the conference under his watch.

2017-18 – 5th
2018-19 – 8th
2019-20 – 6th
2020-21 – 9th
2021-22 – 15th
2022-23 – 6th
2023-23 – 9th (currently)

Average finish: 8.3

(For context, in 6 seasons, Mark Gottfried’s average finish was 8.7.)

Over the past 7 seasons, NC State has been ranked in the Top-25 in only 8 polls (2 separate seasons), with the highest being on January 7th, 2019, when the Wolfpack were ranked 15th.

Under Gottfried, NC State was ranked in 13 polls (all one season). With Herb Sendek at the helm, the Wolfpack were ranked in the Top-25 in 5 different seasons, in a total of 35 polls.

Do I think Kevin Keatts is the worst coach at NC State in recent memory? No, that award goes to Sydney Lowe. In all reality, NC State’s record overall and in conference play is nearly identical under Keatts, as it was under Mark Gottfried and Herb Sendek.

(Overall/Conference)
Kevin Keatts – 58.3/48.3
Mark Gottfried – 58.9/45.3
Herb Sendek – 59.1/45.0

What’s the difference between Keatts and the other two?

A couple of observations.

Sendek finished his time at NC State with 5 consecutive NCAA Tournament appearances, and Gottfried started off his tenure with 4 consecutive NCAA Tournament appearances. The Wolfpack advanced to the 2nd round 3 times, and the Sweet 16 once under Sendek. Under Gottfried, they advanced to the 2nd round twice.

Sendek led NC State to the ACC Championship game 3 times (in 10 years), and the semifinals 4 times. Gottfried led the Wolfpack to the semifinals on 3 occasions. Heck, Sidney Lowe led NC State to the ACC Championship game once, and the semifinals on another occasion.

Is the NC State Men’s Basketball program worse off under Keatts than it was under the previous coaches? If you simply look at total wins and losses, that’s not necessarily the case, but when you look at the Wolfpack’s production in postseason play, there is no other answer besides ‘yes.’

Every now and then you have to be willing to eat crow. Years ago, I was of the opinion that Herb Sendek needed to go. Do I think that Sendek would have brought NC State back to where it was in the 80’s? I didn’t think it then, and I’m not certain my opinion on that has changed, but the past 20 years has proven to me that the grass isn’t always greener.

Call me nostalgic, but from a historical perspective, I believe NC State fans have right to expect their Men’s Basketball program to be successful…to consistently be ranked in the Top-25…to finish in the top half of the ACC…compete for conference championships…and go to the Big Dance on a regular basis.

There is reason to be frustrated.

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Madison Hayes Will Be Returning for Her Final Year of Eligibility in 2024-25

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Last night NC State Guard Madison Hayes was honored on Senior Night, but she also announced that she would be returning in 2024-25 for her final year of eligibility. She was honored alongside Center River Baldwin and Forward Mimi Collins, who are both out of eligibility after this season.

Hayes is in the midst of a breakout season this year, averaging 11.7 points and 7.0 rebounds per game, which are both career highs. She ranks 3rd on the team in scoring, behind the other two Guards in the starting lineup, Aziaha James and Saniya Rivers, who will also be back in 2024-25. Even though she is a Guard, Hayes leads the Wolfpack in rebounding. Her 44.1% Field Goal Percentage is the best of any of the Wolfpack Guards, and her Three Point Percentage of 41.7% is the best on the squad.

As a Senior in high school, Hayes was named a McDonald’s All-American in 2020, and she earned a spot on the All SEC Freshman team in 2021 as a member of Mississippi St. In 2021-22, she transferred to NC State, and played in 26 games off the bench, but earned a spot in the starting lineup last season.

Big news for the Wolfpack Women’s Basketball program!

 

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NC State 64 #9 Duke 79: BOX SCORE

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#9 Duke defeated NC State 79-64 in PNC Arena this evening. With one game remaining for the Wolfpack in the regular season, they are now 17-13 overall, and 9-10 in ACC play. Below is the Box Score.

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